八字還沒一撇兒 [ㄅㄚ ㄗˋ ㄏㄞˊ ㄇㄟˊ ㄧ ㄆㄧㄝˇ ˙ㄦ; ba1 zi4 hai2 mei2 yi1 pie3 r5] lit. there is not even the first stroke of the character 八 things have not even begun to take shape no sign of success yet ◄ ►